This sounds complicated, so let us boil it down. Despite this fact, the children only seem to go forward(?) Dark is the first Netflix Original Series coming from Germany. Adam and the Sic Mundus, short for "Sic Mundus Creatus Est" – "Thus, the world is created" – represent the dark. So once he returns to the "original" timeline where he first found out about time travel, he is already in his fifties, while his younger self is still around 18. Michael exaoljns to Jonas that 2020 Jonas does that, but he doesn’t remember at that point and it doesn’t show him do it...only shows it while Michael explains it. It’s time you understand how everything is really connected. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/ReredditLink.f7b66a91705891e84a09.css.map*/. In Dark, the answer is yes. Yes, that enigmatic, complex and wonderful country in Central Europe. Also Read: 'Terminator: Dark Fate' - Let's Talk About What Happened With John Connor. Time in Dark keeps passing regardless of which "location in time" you spend it in. He’s responsible for so many of the bad things that happened. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} It is never stated anywhere that the Tannhaus machine can take you to ANY time whatsoever. For whatever reason (perhaps because of other, similar movies), these people believe that the universe should have some law against two versions of the same person coexisting in the same time, or that if this happens, one of them should die. That’s why I’m kind of hoping that Adam is in fact a Jonas from another world. So not only is it "past" for you at your original time (84), it will also be "past" for you if you go back 33 years. And that threw everything out of balance. Honestly I understood everything but the last paragraph. in time 33 years. Tannhaus’ home. So Adam is grooming Jonas to, essentially, be his replacement. This is “Dark,” so of course they introduced one last paradox on the way out the door. Is that correct? Marek goes back to H.G. When I mentioned earlier that it appears like the time travel rules changed, this is what I’m referring to. Claudia would refer to this cycle, which we have watched play out of the three seasons of “Dark,” as an “infinite chain of cause and effect.” And here’s the big part: “Time. Given H.G. ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%}.isNotInButtons2020 ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{font-size:14px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:32px;text-transform:uppercase} Sure! Also Read: Confused About 'The Witcher' on Netflix? 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If we believe that everyone outside the bunker dies in the apocalypse, there would be absolutely no reason to bother shooting Martha, as both she and Jonas would die anyway. He did create some new universes, and in those universes he had a new daughter that he named Charlotte. Imagine that you go back in time, and buy a toy car to your childhood self. In this post, I will try to provide an analogy which may make it easier for people who are struggling to understand how time travel and related concepts work in Dark. Is it just that these haven't really been fully explained in the show yet? If you get confused or have forgotten about someone I reference here, you can take a look at that site for help you remember stuff. The element of The Dark and the Wicked that needs the most explanation is the devil that has targeted the Straker family and their home. If they didn’t die, and Tannhaus never built his machine, then Martha and Jonas could not have saved them. Some numbers are marked red, this is where important events in the timeline happens. If he does not kill himself, future Jonas does not go back in time to try to save him, and does not learn that he has to take Mikkel back in time, consequently, Jonas will never be born. What this means in practice is that it is possible to "miss" a past event completely, even if you can move back in time. But first things first, Super Dark Times first hit my radar when it made a list of interesting independent films coming out this year. 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